Tuesday, April 21, 2009

The economic incentive of oppression

I’m always humbled by the insights I get from readers, like this one from L Shepherd on my post about black markers and censorship here in Saudi.

By blocking out a woman in a swimsuit on a product box, they are reminding women that they are being watched and that they are not free. By banning images of a man kissing a woman but not a man hitting a woman, a very powerful message is being sent to women in the kingdom- one far more powerful than to simply stay modest.
Wow!

There’s been a lot written over the years about the way women are portrayed in America, and how those portrayals negatively impact women and girls, especially in the area of weight and self esteem. Most folks claim it comes down to economics. The diet industry, for example, hauls in an estimated 40 to 100 million USD each year by showing us images of super-skinny women, and then telling us that’s how we should want to look as well. Talk about economic incentive!

But that’s there, what about here?

Is there an economic incentive to portraying women as invisible – after all, images of men are both plentiful and, for the most part, unaltered? What about sending the message that they are victims of anger rather than benefactors of love? Vulnerable rather than powerful?

I know, I know. People will say these are matters of modesty and privacy and pious decorum – most definitely not money. But are they?

Isn’t there at least some economic incentive in telling women to feel inferior and submissive, less competent, second-class and even vulnerable in Saudi culture?

Heck yes!

A woman who has been told she is inferior and should be submissive won’t upset the apple cart. She knows her place: it’s not in the boardroom or the bank where the money is, it’s in the bedroom.

A woman who has been told she is less competent won’t compete with men for high-paying and influential jobs, careers, appointment or positions.

A woman who has been told she’s a second-class citizen won’t balk when all the rules favor men and not her. She doesn’t count anyway, right? So, if a man in authority tells her she can’t do something or be something or have something because she isn’t a man, she accepts it – no questions asked.

And a woman who has been made to feel vulnerable – in her home, her marriage, her legal rights, her personal freedoms and even her very existence – will cower when confronted by archaic and misogynistic rules rather than rebel or take a stand against them.

Is there economic incentive in keeping the women of Saudi Arabia down?

You bet your boots there is!

(BTW I'm out of town for a few days since it's a long weekend here, so won't be responding to comments. I'll catch up when I get back!)

15 comments:

Susie of Arabia said...

Great post - great insight!

Susanne said...

It's sad these men have such lofty thoughts about themselves. I say the women of Saudi should refuse to marry these creeps and refuse to have their babies! Ha, ha. They think men are so much better, male children so much better than female...well, let's see how they get along without the fairer sex. How long they last. ;-)

(I'm so evil sometimes. :-D )

Another great post..thank you!

Coolred38 said...

Well i agree up to a point...not because they have to submit to those archaic rules mean they do so in a cowering fashion etc (some do Im sure)...women can rebel in their own little ways...which eventually will hopefully add up into a mass movement of awesome potential and then men of Saudi...hell Men of the World...Watch Out!!!

I hope Im alive to see it.

San Antonio Cicily said...

Boy they would have a lot of blocking out to do here in the US lol. You can't look anywhere without half naked women staring you in your face. Hahahahahha Also if this is so terrible why do they come here and get their groove on with so many women the first chance they get?

burning-phoneix said...

Over-analyzation of a trivial subject. Way to go.

And you still haven't mentioned what the economic incentive for keeping women down is?

AliBaba said...

Perhaps it's the textile industry that produces the black material for abayahs :)

L. Shepherd said...

Wow, thanks for the shout out. There are men, and women too, actually, in the U.S. who believe that the women's movement of the 70's caused untold harm to the job market. I've heard people argue that women have made jobs more scarce by flooding the job market with too many job seekers.

Of course, women start a high percentage of the small businesses in the U.S., but then that can pose a problem for men as well. Many men don't want to work for a woman. I imagine that goes double for Saudi men. Keeping women down eliminates a lot of these perceived problems.

Sand Gets in My Eyes said...

Susie of Arabia - thanks for dropping by! I was over in your part of the Kingdom this weekend. Nice!

Susanne - hehe sounds like a viable solution, but we all know better!

Coolred - Agreed - there are a lot of different ways to rebel, and some of them are surely more effectively done under the radar, so to speak.

San Antonio Cicily - You're right about the States - and it's something that makes me crazy every time I go back! Talk about culture shock. lol. There has to be a happy medium somewhere, right?

Sand Gets in My Eyes said...

Burning Phoneix - trivial to you as a man, perhaps, but not to women and especially not to the women of Saudi Arabia where female unemployment doubles and even triples unemployment of men, where women earn less and have less buying power, where the women are strictly and arbitrarily controlled by a male-dominated society built around making sure women are submissive in all the meanings of that word.

As far as economic incentive - what part didn't you get? Qualified women are blocked out of jobs all the time so that largely unqualified men can stay employed. Unemployed or under employed women have less buying power and fewer opportunities for advancement and success - personally, professionally and in terms of society. Lacking financial freedom and independence, women are held hostage by the men who control the finances.

Examples of the economic incentive to keeping women "down" are a dime a dozen, and I'd be happy to go on, or even suggest a reading list. Let me know if you're interested!

Sand Gets in My Eyes said...

L. Shepherd - you're right, of course. There are always folks who blame their own situation on others, and the women's movement in the States has been an easy target. That said, I think Darwin had the right idea in "survival of the fittest" - let the job/opportunity go to the most qualified individual ... regardless.

The problem with that theory, as we all know, is the "unfit" who are suddenly confronted by the consequences of their actions and choices. ie the man who has been lazy and inefficient, has just floated thru life on the strength of his gender and now finds himself outpaced, out-smarted and out-worked by a women. Rather than blame himself and his poor choices, lack of work ethic or initiative, he will nearly always blame the woman for his woes.

Put the added burden of a misogynist, shame-based society like Saudi on top of that scenario, and viola!

Thanks for dropping by and adding to the conversation!

burning-phoneix said...

To even suggest that the simple fact of having a black marker on some women's arms and legs in a magazine is some huge secret conspiracy to keep women down is quite plainly and utterly wrong. And where are these huge stashes of pictures of men beating women?

Doesn't it also mean men are being watched? "You want to look at women you pervert? NOT ON OUR WATCH!"

Also, I find it funny that L Shepherd mentioned the reason playboy channel wasn't blocked was because it was for men.



So......the Religious police advocate watching porn for men but not women.....?

I'm sorry but that just shows that Shepherd has zero idea of what he's talking about and lost all credibility.

You're just looking for more places to raise the flag of feminism.

I'm not against feminism or anything like that but if you're going to declare war then declare war over something less trivial and more clear.

As for economic incentives: I see. I believed you were talking about the economic incentive for a nation and not individuals so pardon that statement.

Sand Gets in My Eyes said...

Burning Phoneix - I agree, both men and women are being "watched", but there seems to be a greater built-in incentive to patrol and control women than men - altho I know the Hai'a confront guys on occasion for such things as "harassing" women, they seem to spend a lot more energy on making sure women are covered, aren't alone with unrelated men, are conforming to social piety mores, etc.

As far as the idea of black markers representing an economic incentive to oppression...maybe it's a bit of a stretch, but it does suggest an interesting correlation.

Your comments and insights always add to the discussion - thanks!

burning-phoneix said...

I can see where you are coming from and apologize if my little outburst seemed offensive in any way. I just thought it seemed weird that my English video game magazine (in which videogames is a vast majority male hobby) which had black markers on the scantily clad female was somehow tied to female oppression.

Also, they've moved past black markers now. They use white stickers. :P

L. Shepherd said...

Burning:

The Style channel is not porn for women. It's just a general interest channel for women. that was banned during the time specified, but porn for men wasn't. And yes- Playboy does cater to men. I think that since you didn't understand these very basic facts, it's probably not my credibility that's the question here...

And Burning, since you're such a feminist and all, as you claim, you probably ought to take time to think about why you assumed I was a man.

burning-phoneix said...

I am aware that playboy caters to men. But to assume that the religious police of all people would leave playboy untouched because they think men watching porn is okay is wrong. It's pay per view that is based in another country that they cannot touch not because they think men should be able to watch porn. It's silly to assume this thought process:

General interest channel for women?BANNED! Porn channel for men? Well I'm a highly conservative religous cleric opposed to indecency of all kinds but men need entertaining so I'm going to let is slide.

And I never said I'm a feminist, just that I'm not against it. I don't know your first name so I assumed you were a man because I do know some men who are feminist. I apologize for any offense.