Saturday, March 10, 2007

Is Phyllis Chesler right?

Thanks to Dreams into Lightning for turning me on to Phyllis Chesler, a feminist, a citizen of the world and an Emerita Professor of Psychology and Women’s Studies at the City University of New York.

In the March 7, 2007 edition of the London Times, Chesler tackles the subject of what she calls "sexual and religious apartheid" in the conservative Muslim world in a thoughtful – and provacative - column entitled “How my eyes were opened to the barbarity of Islam”.

Chesler knows of what she speaks. She was married to what she calls a “Westernized Afghan Muslim”, and brought to live in Afghanistan, where things went from bad to worse. And then worse still as her eyes were opened to the very real presence of sexual and religious apartheid.


“Overnight, my husband became a stranger. The man with whom I had discussed Camus, Dostoevsky, Tennessee Williams and the Italian cinema became a stranger. He treated me the same way his father and elder brother treated their wives: distantly, with a hint of disdain and embarrassment.”
“I saw how polygamous, arranged marriages and child brides led to chronic female suffering and to rivalry between co-wives and half-brothers; how the subordination and sequestration of women led to a profound estrangement between the sexes — one that led to wife-beating, marital rape and to a rampant but hotly denied male “prison”-like homosexuality and pederasty; how frustrated, neglected and uneducated women tormented their daughter-in-laws and female servants; how women were not allowed to pray in mosques or visit male doctors (their husbands described the symptoms in their absence).“
“Long before the rise of the Taleban, I learnt not to romanticize Third World countries or to confuse their hideous tyrants with liberators. I also learnt that sexual and religious apartheid in Muslim countries is indigenous and not the result of Western crimes — and that such “colorful tribal customs” are absolutely, not relatively, evil. Long before al-Qaeda beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan and Nicholas Berg in Iraq, I understood that it was dangerous for a Westerner, especially a woman, to live in a Muslim country.”
Synchronicity is surely at work. I’ve been struggling with a lot of issues relative to living here in a fundamentalist, ultra-conservative Muslim country. When I first got to Saudi, I was gobsmacked, romanticizing a culture and people so different than what I’d grown up knowing.

I spent a lot of time looking for – and seeing – the similarities between the women I’d grown up with and the women of this place. And for awhile, that was comforting.

But, as I’ve learned more about life here, as I’ve been exposed to more of the nitty-gritty, I’ve started to see the differences – broad, sweeping, profoundly different differences. I’ve started to question whether if – like geological structures – what lies beneath the common soil is fundamentally dissimilar. Some places are volcanic – born of fire, others are carbon – born of life.

I've started wondering how safe - psychologically, emotionally, spiritually - it is for me as a western woman to be in a a place where women are often seen as less-than, where marriages can be dissolved with a text message and where much of what I see I can not understand or sometimes even stomach.

When I started working through these issues, my husband understood – he’s lived overseas for more than a decade. He told me I needed to come to my own place of peace.

Maybe Chesler’s insights - or at least components of them - are a first step toward that place. She is radical, she is controversial, she is outspoken. Some may call her racist and hate-filled and maybe even as evil as the concepts she attacks. But is there a chance that she is right?

More thoughts on Sexual and Religious Apartheid.

Chesler is the author of several books, including Woman's Inhumanity to Woman, Patriarchy: Notes of an Expert Witness and How Afghan captivity shaped my feminism. : An article from: Middle East Quarterly.

9 comments:

Asher Abrams said...

Thanks for the link, and so glad you found the Phyllis Chesler article helpful! Thanks for helping to get the word out.

Marie-Aude said...

What I always find strange, and even stranger from insiders as you and Chesler are, is this on-going permanent confusion between Muslim, Arab, Middle-East and Farsi countries and cultures.

I can totally back up what you and she describe, in some Muslim countries. Living, married with a Muslim, in another one, I can also tell you there are as many differences between Muslim countries as between Poland, Spain, and the States, for example. All three Christian countries, aren(t they ?

Sand Gets in My Eyes said...

Marie-Aude - I totally agree that Saudi Arabia is not your typical Muslim country or culture. We've visited a lot of so-called Muslim places around the world, and those experiences are nothing like the daily experiences of the populations here.

For some reason, we humans like to put religion and culture and country into one big box and then plant it on the footstep of what are basically geo-political units. hehe no wonder things gets confusing!

Thanks for visiting and commenting.

Marie-Aude said...

:) thanks for returning the visit :)

You're in my feed list now

Cynthia Samuels said...

Phyllis Chesler is a long-time feminist and Jewish activist and a great writer. I have never been in a Muslim country so I can't judge objectively but I do know that she gets intense about every issue she covers. Her story of a spousal transformation when returning to a home culture is a sadly familiar one in both fiction and memoir though.

There is a (semi) new book called INFIDEL by Ayaan Hirsi Ali (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel_(book)) that deals with dangers for Islamic feminists even in western countries. She has faced death threats since coming to the Netherlands, for example.

Basically, the intensity of weirdness toward women in fundamentalist cultures is fascinating and scary but, in the Islamic world it's particularly difficult to witness because it's often not only cultural but institutionalized, right?

By the way, Chesler wrote an exquisite book about her pregnancy called WITH CHILD (http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/publications.php?pid=withchild)that I remember loving it when it came out.

Sand Gets in My Eyes said...

Cynthia - intensity of wierdness is a great description of what goes on here, and yes, most of it is institutionalized and woven into every aspect of life. FOr me it is sometimes overwhelming - and I'm not one to be overwhelmed - so can't imagine what it is like for the local women.

Since this post, I've read nearly everything available (here anyway) that Chesler has written. Can't say I agree with everything, but can say she is passionate and opinionated and makes me think!

Thanks for the comment!

muslimahmediawatch.org said...

My issues with Chesler is that her credentials are her marriage: she only lived in Afghanistan for a few months a few decades ago.

I can understand the culture shock and resulting bitterness that results from a divorce and disillusionment, but I can't understand why she thinks that gives her the right to speak for Muslim women as if she's our savior, and box all Muslim and Middle Eastern men into one big, fat (and hairy) stereotype.

Feel free to come over to my blog, where sisters are doin' it for themselves.

Sand Gets in My Eyes said...

Muslimah Media Watch - thanks for dropping by and yes, I agree, Chesler's views are not only decades old - and think of how times have changed! - but also limited to a short period of intensely emotional time. That said, much of what she writes rings true to what I have come to know from living in Saudi. Again, not that saudi is in any way reflective of other Muslim cultures or behaviors! Again, thanks for adding to the discussion.

Anonymous said...

Chesler's views are decades old? Too bad forced marriages and honor killings happen every day around the world, including in Canada, US, England, Germany, etc. There's nothing "decades old" about what Chesler is writing about.